2020. 2. 18. 09:25ㆍ카테고리 없음
In Kansas at least, it seems the Division of Vehicles within the Kansas Department of Revenue (our DMV equivalent) has taken to defacing driver's licenses as part of the renewal process, by cutting off one corner. At my last renewal I was able to avoid this by pretending I had a room-temperature IQ. This worked because instead of having the counter clerk wield the scissors, they sent around another clerk to collect licenses from people queued up for renewal, so I could just play dumb. I don't think this will work a second time, so I am considering going without my license and saying I have lost it. Do other states do this? What workarounds have people devised? They are defacing licenses with up to a month of validity left (renewal notices are typically mailed automatically a month before expiry).
I save old identification (driver's licenses, ID cards, passports, etc.) as family history papers. I prefer them to be intact or cancelled in an uniform manner (passports, for example, are cancelled by using a press to punch holes in one or both covers, and stamping the reason for cancellation and-in some cases-the duty station where cancelled inside the front cover).
Defacing driver's licenses by hand, with scissors that do not produce an uniform cut, is a crude and makeshift way of doing it. I have a collection of driver's licenses going back to the 1970's.
In addition to my own expired licenses, I have the last license issued to my grandfather (who died in August 1976), which is also the only Kansas license I have without the bearer's photo. Each of these licenses is undefaced, since the DMV only recently started defacing licenses and I managed to outsmart the scissors at the last renewal. I keep all of my old licenses and passports under lock and key, so I really do not want to be bound by lowest-common-denominator policies aimed at nincompoops who can't keep their old identification secure. Old driver's licenses are historical artifacts and there are webpages dedicated to them. Here is a New York Times article on the history of NY driving licenses. Various states (or even all of them) may require it, but since (AIUI) the national driver registry covers commercial drivers only, there is no way to enforce it for noncommercial drivers except through license exchange, which requires you to present the license issued by your former jurisdiction so that it can be taken from you and returned to them for voiding and destruction. Randy Hersh told me years ago that he collected driver's licenses from multiple states the way some collect official state maps.
However, this was likely back in the days when the vast majority of states still issued licenses without photos and the DL was not yet cornerstone identification for non-driving-related purposes, like crossing the border, buying age-controlled goods, registering to vote, voting, etc. I never use my driver's license to vote, board a plane, or when I get carded (Wegmans always cards everyone for beer or wine). I use my passport card, and it confuses the hell out of the old ladies who work the polling places.
They really resent it if you don't use a driver's license and they don't even like a conventional passport book.not that they have any say in the matter, of course. I found my temporary permit upstairs the other day when I was cleaning up, but I shredded it before I saw this thread and thus I can't really comment much on how it looked other than to say it was a US-standard 'letter' sized piece of paper with name, address, driver's license number, date of expiry, and any restrictions (mine had an 'X,' denoting corrective lenses are required). I presume it had an explanation of its validity in case you went out of state, though in Virginia that's never a reasonable assumption because they seem to think we spend our whole lives inside the Commonwealth! In Kansas at least, it seems the Division of Vehicles within the Kansas Department of Revenue (our DMV equivalent) has taken to defacing driver's licenses as part of the renewal process, by cutting off one corner. At my last renewal I was able to avoid this by pretending I had a room-temperature IQ. This worked because instead of having the counter clerk wield the scissors, they sent around another clerk to collect licenses from people queued up for renewal, so I could just play dumb. I don't think this will work a second time, so I am considering going without my license and saying I have lost it.
Do other states do this? What workarounds have people devised?
Void Punched On Drivers License New York
In Kansas at least, it seems the Division of Vehicles within the Kansas Department of Revenue (our DMV equivalent) has taken to defacing driver's licenses as part of the renewal process, by cutting off one corner. At my last renewal I was able to avoid this by pretending I had a room-temperature IQ. This worked because instead of having the counter clerk wield the scissors, they sent around another clerk to collect licenses from people queued up for renewal, so I could just play dumb. I don't think this will work a second time, so I am considering going without my license and saying I have lost it.
Drivers License Punched Void
Do other states do this? What workarounds have people devised? From what I read above, it reads like he somehow 'uses' these documents as 'historical' documents and just doesn't like them being 'defaced' because he'd rather have them unmolested rather than cut or whatnot. In short, my take on it is that it just bugs him. Seems to me a decent 'Book of Remembrance' for family history would be a way of keeping the addresses straight and the sliced up licenses could just be supplementary rather than the primary record.
Of course, that change in approach may not satisfy him, either. So, just a suggestion. Possible solution: say you lost it and are getting a replacement.
I would imagine a replacement license with less than a month of validity left would include a renewal rolled into the deal unless Kansas has particularly brain-damaged policies. (In Oklahoma, I went to get my address changed on a license once and I got a renewal with the deal because I had less than a year left on the old one, which seemed pretty generous.) This presupposes that there are not any confiscatory fees associated with replacement licenses. Possible solution: say you lost it and are getting a replacement. I would imagine a replacement license with less than a month of validity left would include a renewal rolled into the deal unless Kansas has particularly brain-damaged policies. (In Oklahoma, I went to get my address changed on a license once and I got a renewal with the deal because I had less than a year left on the old one, which seemed pretty generous.) This presupposes that there are not any confiscatory fees associated with replacement licenses.
Possible solution: say you lost it and are getting a replacement. I would imagine a replacement license with less than a month of validity left would include a renewal rolled into the deal unless Kansas has particularly brain-damaged policies. (In Oklahoma, I went to get my address changed on a license once and I got a renewal with the deal because I had less than a year left on the old one, which seemed pretty generous.) This presupposes that there are not any confiscatory fees associated with replacement licenses.